The paints used on both are comparable (Vallejo Khaki grey for the uniform etc). Here's a picture of a mini painted with the old versions of dip and matte varnish:Īnd here's one where the new versions of both have been used: I switched to a Vallejo matt varnish instead, which is better, but not quite as good as the old AP. Again, the bottles are labelled anti-shine matte varnish just as before, but the content seems quite different. But the newer bottles are almost milky white before drying and the end result is much less matte. This used to be completely clear and gave a super-matte finish. Has anyone else had this problem? Or have I had the misfortune to come across a faulty tin of dip? Could the problem be solved by mixing the strong tone 50/50 with the dark tone perhaps (I havent tried the dark tone)?Īround the same time I also incidentally (or not?) noticed a change in AP:s bottled matt (anti-shine) varnish. But it works less well on my napoleonic Russians, where both the red and the dark green become much too, well, brown! For general shading there needs to be more black in there. The new one works OK with some, as with the Perry US ww2 I am working on right now - they are supposed to be very brown and that's what you get with the new dip. To me, the old version was a good all-round wash to shade all minis. It also seems to take a lot longer to dry and harden, perhaps twice as long (let's say 48 hours vs 24). The new stuff is lighter and much more brown in color. After using it for a while, I realized that this tin contained a "dip" of a very different shade from the old one, even though it is still labelled "strong tone". The Army Painter Quickshade Dip Soft Tone, Quickly Dipping and Shading Entire Wargaming Armies, Oil Wash for Miniature Figures, for Tabletop Roleplaying or Wargames, 250 ml (Soft Tone) Visit the The Army Painter Store. This general purpose dip is good for almost everything. Strong Tone/Antique Walnut A more heavily pigmented brown dip. This is my least used dip, but good to have around. However, I bought a new tin, I think it must have been around a year ago or so. Army Painter Quickshade/Minwax Polyshades equivalents and Description Soft Tone/Pecan A light brown dip, best used for applications where only a little shading is called for. I have used this product for a few years now and I think it has been a very useful thing. I have been annoyed about the Army Painter Quickshade "dip" ever since I ordered my latest tin.
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